S8 Ep889: PREVIEW for Later Today: The Role of Music in Jihadist Radicalization and Recruitment. Guest: Sophie McDowell. Sophie McDowell explains how jihadists utilize music to foster a sense of pride and community among potential recruits. Music creates a subconsc
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🗓️ 18 May 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel speaking with FD's Sophie McDowell on how music is being used by the jihadists to recruit |
| 0:08.8 | music and the willingness to enter into a community that is violent because of the music, |
| 0:18.0 | inspired by the music. Here Sophie explains. It works best, I would imagine, |
| 0:23.5 | people can keep up with the beat when you're younger. More of this tonight. |
| 0:29.7 | For sure. And I think there is maybe some historical content, but that feeling that you describe |
| 0:35.3 | of being able to hear some of these songs that put you in the moment |
| 0:38.4 | and potentially arise a sense of pride or a sense of belonging, which is something that we often see people |
| 0:47.0 | who are radicalized through the internet are seeking a sense of community, a sense of belonging, |
| 0:53.0 | and a purpose. Music, a sense of belonging, and a purpose, |
| 0:55.1 | music is a way that even subconsciously, |
| 0:59.3 | you can start to feel that sense of embracing |
| 1:01.9 | what you're hearing and feeling more of an affinity for it. |
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