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S8 Ep838: 12/16: Michael Toth attributes California's high energy costs to political ideology rather than global events. These "self-inflicted wounds" have caused a middle-class exodus and potential shortages of materials like asphalt.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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12/16: Michael Toth attributes California's high energy costs to political ideology rather than global events. These "self-inflicted wounds" have caused a middle-class exodus and potential shortages of materials like asphalt.
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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor. I welcome my good colleague Michael Toth Research Director at the Civitas Institute, University of Texas at Austin,

0:23.6

and also a man riding in California, the Golden Estate, the best weather, the best people, the best Pacific Coast, and fossil fuels.

0:32.7

Michael, a very good evening to you. I have a photograph in front of me from 1903. It's described as the Santa

0:39.0

Barbara Pacific Coast covered with wood-built oil wells pumping out of the rich Pacific Coast a great

0:48.8

deal of black gold. I've also got a photograph like that, black and white, dated in the 1920s on Huntington Beach,

0:56.6

which is south of Los Angeles, as you know.

0:59.3

What we have here is a state that has abundant fossil fuels, and yet the price of gasoline is humbling

1:06.7

when you consider that they pay it every day and drive long distances.

1:10.8

I can complain about 475 a gallon in New England, and my correspondence in California laugh and say,

1:17.7

if only, if only, what has gotten us into this fix? They have plenty of oil. Good evening, Michael.

1:23.8

John, it's great to be with you. What's gotten us into it is just one giant, massive, self-inflicted

1:30.6

wound caused and expanded by the political leadership of California on its own residence,

1:40.3

you know, mainly residents in middle class and lower middle class in the state who are struggling

1:46.3

to make ends meet because electricity costs have gone up by 96% in California in the last 15 years

1:53.6

and on and on and on. And, you know, this is a time of energy abundance in much of the other 49 states.

2:02.7

And so, you know, it's a sad story.

2:04.3

Those pictures that you talked about, John, they don't lie.

2:06.7

That's what California has, and that's what California could turn back on if it wanted to.

2:11.2

And the reason it does not has to do with ideology, with politics, with fashion, with virtue.

2:16.6

They drive lots of cars. They drive

2:19.3

big SUVs. They drive the Ford F-150, the most popular vehicle in the solar system. They know it

2:26.0

costs them more than $100 to fill their tanks up. Why? You know, it really is just a matter

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