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S8 Ep827: 2/16: Bill Roggio explains that al-Qaeda is expanding across Mali and Somalia, exploiting weak governments to build a caliphate. Both al-Qaeda and ISIS are partitioning territories and increasingly threatening regional capitals.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 5 minutes

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2/16: Bill Roggio explains that al-Qaeda is expanding across Mali and Somalia, exploiting weak governments to build a caliphate. Both al-Qaeda and ISIS are partitioning territories and increasingly threatening regional capitals.

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0:50.9

Al-Qaeda is in the field.

0:53.4

Al-Qaeda is strong. Al-Qaeda might be the strongest it's ever been. I'm not sure, so I'm glad Bill Rajo is here to help me. Bill, reports from Caleb Weiss last week, and you followed up with a conversation about Bamako, the capital of Mali. That is an al-Qaeda operation, according to the early reports.

1:13.8

Al-Qaeda is also in the field in Somalia and in Sudan.

1:17.9

Al-Qaeda is reported to be in the field, certainly, in West Africa.

1:22.8

What is your measure of al-Qaeda's intention now, Bill?

1:25.6

It's concentrating on African nations. Is it still

1:30.1

a transnational threat against the U.S. and Europe? Yeah, al-Qaeda has never ceased being a transnational

1:36.8

threat. People believe that because al-Qaeda hasn't attacked the United States directly or U.S.

1:43.2

interests globally for a couple of years.

1:46.8

It means that al-Qaeda is no longer a threat.

1:49.2

They're absolutely wrong.

1:50.3

I remind people that the first attack on the World Trade Center took place an attempted

1:55.8

car bombing in the garage at the World Trade Center in 1993.

1:59.5

It was eight years before that in 9-11.

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