S8 Ep819: The Origins of Two Cosmological Giants George Gamow was born in Odessa in 1904 to a schoolteacher father who had once taught Leon Trotsky, leading to a notable incident where Trotsky attempted to organize a student coup in the classroom by having every st
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FEBRUARY 1957
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS, I on the World. I'm John Batchelor, and I welcome Professor Paul Halpern at the University of the Sciences, the author of a new book, Flashes of Creation, George Kamoff, Fred Hoyle, and the Great Big Bang Debate of the 20th century. |
| 0:18.9 | Professor, a very good evening to you. Thank you for this. |
| 0:21.4 | Let's get our two protagonists born. |
| 0:24.4 | Georgi Antonovich Gamov, born Odessa, March of 1904. |
| 0:29.6 | I find most ironic, his father was a teacher. |
| 0:33.5 | This was the time that there was much excitement in Russia |
| 0:37.1 | because of the revolution, 1905, and then the 1917, 1918 revolution. |
| 0:44.2 | But his father, who was one of his father's students? |
| 0:47.3 | And what did our hero, Georgi Antonovich Gamov, make of that fact? |
| 0:52.6 | Good evening to you, Paul. |
| 0:55.4 | Good evening. Thank you for having me on the show. Joe is pronounced, it's spelled Gio and pronounced Joe, Gammov, that he always |
| 1:04.0 | went by the American nickname Joe, interestingly enough. Or you could say George. His father was |
| 1:10.4 | Anton Gamoff, who was a very bright school |
| 1:13.9 | teacher, and his student was Lev Bronstein, better known as Leon Trotsky, the Russian revolutionary, |
| 1:20.5 | a future Russian revolutionary. And interestingly, the young Trotsky tried to institute a kind of |
| 1:27.3 | coup in Anton's classroom. |
| 1:31.1 | He thought that Anton was an unfair teacher and circulated a petition and every student |
| 1:37.5 | sign one letter of the petition to emphasize the fact that everybody was united against |
| 1:43.6 | the teacher. |
| 1:46.2 | And they circulated it to the headmaster of the school. But luckily, for the Gammovs, Antelm was not fired, so the coup d'etat failed. |
| 1:54.1 | This is the early part of the 20th century. And what we're talking about is revolution, but not |
| 1:59.0 | revolution politically. Revolution in physics and cosmology. |
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