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S8 Ep819: The Origins of Two Cosmological Giants George Gamow was born in Odessa in 1904 to a schoolteacher father who had once taught Leon Trotsky, leading to a notable incident where Trotsky attempted to organize a student coup in the classroom by having every st

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The Origins of Two Cosmological Giants George Gamow was born in Odessa in 1904 to a schoolteacher father who had once taught Leon Trotsky, leading to a notable incident where Trotsky attempted to organize a student coup in the classroom by having every student sign a single letter of a protest petition to hide individual identities. Gamow'seducation eventually took him to the University of St. Petersburg, where his father famously sold the family silver to fund his studies under the mentorship of Alexander Friedmann, a meteorologist and balloonist who pioneered mathematical models of an expanding universe based on Einstein's general relativity. When Friedmann died at a young age after contracting typhoid following a high-altitude balloon flight, Gamow was forced to pivot from cosmology to quantum and nuclear physics, where he successfully modeled alpha particle decay and the process of quantum tunneling that allows particles of opposite charges to overcome energy barriers. This discovery laid the groundwork for understanding the fusion processes that fuel stars and led to the development of early particle accelerators. During his time at Niels Bohr's Institute in Copenhagen, Gamow became a legendary figure known for riding his motorcycle across Europe and using humorous cartoons to communicate with international colleagues when language barriers arose. His life took a dramatic turn when the Soviet regime began demanding that scientific research align with Marxist-Leninist philosophy, prompting Gamow to attempt a daring but unsuccessful escape in a rubber kayak across the Black Sea toward Turkey. He and his wife were eventually able to defect to the West in 1933 after Bohr arranged for him to represent the Soviet Union at the Solvay conference, allowing Gamow to ultimately settle at George Washington University and begin his influential work on the "Big Bang" theory. Guest Author: Paul Halpern. (1/4)
FEBRUARY 1957

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0:00.0

This is CBS, I on the World. I'm John Batchelor, and I welcome Professor Paul Halpern at the University of the Sciences, the author of a new book, Flashes of Creation, George Kamoff, Fred Hoyle, and the Great Big Bang Debate of the 20th century.

0:18.9

Professor, a very good evening to you. Thank you for this.

0:21.4

Let's get our two protagonists born.

0:24.4

Georgi Antonovich Gamov, born Odessa, March of 1904.

0:29.6

I find most ironic, his father was a teacher.

0:33.5

This was the time that there was much excitement in Russia

0:37.1

because of the revolution, 1905, and then the 1917, 1918 revolution.

0:44.2

But his father, who was one of his father's students?

0:47.3

And what did our hero, Georgi Antonovich Gamov, make of that fact?

0:52.6

Good evening to you, Paul.

0:55.4

Good evening. Thank you for having me on the show. Joe is pronounced, it's spelled Gio and pronounced Joe, Gammov, that he always

1:04.0

went by the American nickname Joe, interestingly enough. Or you could say George. His father was

1:10.4

Anton Gamoff, who was a very bright school

1:13.9

teacher, and his student was Lev Bronstein, better known as Leon Trotsky, the Russian revolutionary,

1:20.5

a future Russian revolutionary. And interestingly, the young Trotsky tried to institute a kind of

1:27.3

coup in Anton's classroom.

1:31.1

He thought that Anton was an unfair teacher and circulated a petition and every student

1:37.5

sign one letter of the petition to emphasize the fact that everybody was united against

1:43.6

the teacher.

1:46.2

And they circulated it to the headmaster of the school. But luckily, for the Gammovs, Antelm was not fired, so the coup d'etat failed.

1:54.1

This is the early part of the 20th century. And what we're talking about is revolution, but not

1:59.0

revolution politically. Revolution in physics and cosmology.

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