S8 Ep819: Legacy, Nobel Snubs, and the Fringes of Science Following the confirmation of the Big Bang theory, the cosmic microwave background was measured at approximately 2.73 degrees Kelvin, a discovery that George Gamow spent his final years advocating
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Legacy, Nobel Snubs, and the Fringes of Science Following the confirmation of the Big Bang theory, the cosmic microwave background was measured at approximately 2.73 degrees Kelvin, a discovery that George Gamow spent his final years advocating for as a validation of his 1940s work. Gamow, whose health declined due to heavy smoking and alcohol use before his death in 1968, frequently reminded the scientific community that his earlier calculations with Ralph Alpher had correctly predicted this radiation, using the metaphor that a lost and found penny is still the same penny. While the Big Bang gained universal acceptance, Fred Hoyle faced a professional crisis when the Nobel Prize for stellar nucleosynthesis was awarded solely to William Fowler, excluding Hoyle and his other collaborators, Margaretand Jeffrey Burbidge. This snub, which some speculate was due to a misunderstanding by nominator Hans Bethe or Hoyle's increasingly controversial reputation, led Hoyle to sever ties with Fowler and retreat to the Lake District. In his later years, Hoyle moved toward the fringes of science, championing the theory of "panspermia"—the idea that life and diseases such as AIDS and Legionnaire's disease originated in space and arrived on Earth via comets. He also drew the ire of the scientific establishment by arguing that Darwinian evolution was impossible due to the Earth's age, a stance that ironically gained him support from creationist groups despite his own atheism. Paul Halpern characterizes both Gamowand Hoyle as "seat of the pants" thinkers who relied on flashes of intuition rather than slow, methodical archival work, though Hoyle was notably more stubborn in defending his unconventional ideas. Ultimately, both men are remembered as brilliant storytellers who made the complex physics of the 20th century accessible to the public while fundamentally shaping our understanding of the universe. Guest Author: Paul Halpern. (4/4)
DECEMBER 1951
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchel with Professor Paul Halpern. His new book is Flashes of Creation, George Gamoff, Fred Hoyle, and the Great Big Bang debate. We've now found evidence of the Big Bang, or the Big Squeeze, or the creation moment. We also have better and better understanding of how long ago it happened, 13.8. |
| 0:22.7 | The temperature of the cosmos turns out to be, I believe, 3 degrees Kelvin, is that correct, Paul? |
| 0:28.6 | 3? |
| 0:29.9 | Yeah, more precisely about 2.73 degrees, Kelvin, but 3 was about what they came up with at that time. |
| 0:36.7 | And we follow Gamma first because he's older and his health becomes a challenge to him |
| 0:43.7 | in the 1960s. He will die in 1968. He's a smoker and he has troubles with alcohol. However, |
| 0:51.9 | before he passes away, he recognizes that his work has contributed |
| 0:57.5 | to these discoveries. Is that correct, Paul? Oh, yes. He started writing to people. He wrote to |
| 1:05.6 | Peebles. He wrote to Dickie. And his student, Ralph Alfer, also was writing continuously to them to try to get the record straight |
| 1:13.5 | because some of the calculations that were done by the Dickie and Peoples group essentially |
| 1:20.0 | reproduced some of the work that Alfer under the tutelage of Gamov had done in the 1940s. |
| 1:28.4 | So they were trying to bring attention to their earlier papers. |
| 1:32.4 | And at one point, Gamov went to a conference in New York, |
| 1:37.1 | and at the conference, he made a statement, |
| 1:41.3 | if you lose a penny and then you later find a penny, it's still the same |
| 1:46.1 | penny, the same with my theories. Yes, it's a wonderful metaphor. I liked him for it. Now, Fred |
| 1:51.4 | Hoyle, Fred Hoyle works with a husband and wife, Margaret and Jeffrey Burbridge and Wilson Fowler. |
| 1:58.0 | You've mentioned him earlier. William Fowler, you've mentioned him earlier, William Fowler, you've mentioned him earlier. |
| 2:03.2 | You said that Hull's work pursues into the bodies of stars. |
| 2:09.3 | They come up with an explanation for elements heavier than iron. |
| 2:13.9 | The puzzle here is not that they did it, it's genius work, but that later on, the Nobel Prize |
| 2:20.0 | skips the Burbages and Hoyle and gives the Nobel Prize for that work to Fowler only. |
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