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S8 Ep817: Putin's Revisionist History and the 2014 Invasion In 2021, during pandemic isolation, Putin authored an essay claiming Russians and Ukrainians are "one people," a document Finkel describes as a collection of unhistorical myths. This ideology fueled the 20

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 3 May 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Putin's Revisionist History and the 2014 Invasion

In 2021, during pandemic isolation, Putin authored an essay claiming Russians and Ukrainians are "one people," a document Finkel describes as a collection of unhistorical myths. This ideology fueled the 2014 annexation of Crimea and the infiltration of the Donbas following the Euromaidan revolution, where Ukrainians rejected a corrupt, pro-Russian proxy. While Russian propaganda claimed the Donbas movements were indigenous, they were actually driven by Russian mercenaries and military officers. Putin's goal is not merely security against NATO, but the total subordination of Ukraine as a client state to restore the Russian Empire. Guest: Professor Eugene Finkel. (5/8)
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.0

Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.0

This is CBSI on the World.

0:14.0

I'm John Bachelor.

0:15.0

It's a great pleasure to continue my conversation with Professor

0:18.0

Eugene Finkel teaches at Johns Hopkins. His new book is

0:22.1

Intent to Destroy Russia's 200-year quest to dominate Ukraine. It is now 2021. The pandemic is

0:32.6

gripping the earth. There's fear everywhere, especially by seniors, that the pandemic is coming for them.

0:42.1

One of those seniors is a man named Vladimir Putin. He's isolated in 2020 and 2021. You can all

0:50.4

remember those long tables where he would entertain people 30 feet away from him.

0:55.7

Well, during that period of relative isolation, he had few visitors.

1:00.2

He read a lot of history.

1:01.3

I learned from Professor Eugene Finkel's book, Intent to Destroy,

1:06.0

and wrote a version of Ukraine and Russia that was published immediately in 21, surprisingly similar

1:18.1

to opinions that he's had ever since.

1:20.7

It's important to look at that document, not because it's beautifully written, but because it contains

1:26.2

myths that we've now very carefully said

1:30.1

we're not accurate. And he could have learned they were not accurate at the time, but he

1:34.7

chose not to. Professor, that essay, it's revelatory, thanks to my reading of your book beforehand,

1:42.7

is that something that other world leaders know

1:45.0

that Vladimir Putin has a myth in mind

1:48.0

when he talks about Ukraine?

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