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Today. I'm John Bachelor with Andrew Graham Dixon.

The book is Vermeer, A Life Lost and Found.

Vermeer is gone.

His paintings remain, 34, 35 of them, and the wife,

Katerina, inherits some. Others are given to the baker who's been generous with his bread

without being paid for many years. He's feeding 11 children, all very hungry. But the legacy

continues through the breakup of the paintings and the various

dealers who buy them. But the revelations about the Remonstrance Church does not follow them into the

next century, the 18th century. And Andrew, you write that at one point in the 18th century are the founding of the Republic

in the United States, the Vineyard of Liberty, which I now believe was heavily influenced

by the Dutch, all of that.

They would not have known that Vermeer was this man from the collegians or the remonstrance.

That would have been unknown in James Madison or Thomas Jefferson.

Is that correct?

Completely unknown.

Vermeer was forgotten.

His paintings were forgotten.

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