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S8 Ep809: 8. Headline: The AI Revolution: Job Displacement Fears and Massive Energy Needs Guests: Alan Tonelson and Jim McTague Summary: The AI boom is driving massive investment in data centers, boosting industries like steel and cooling equipment. While some comp

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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8. Headline: The AI Revolution: Job Displacement Fears and Massive Energy Needs Guests: Alan Tonelson and Jim McTague Summary: The AI boom is driving massive investment in data centers, boosting industries like steel and cooling equipment. While some compare this to the early industrial revolution, a major constraint is the "incomprehensible" amount of energy required to power these systems, potentially putting the US at a disadvantage. 8
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0:00.0

I'm John Betts with my good colleagues, Alan Tonnelson, my guide on trade and manufacturing in America these

0:22.6

many years, and Jim McTague, former Washington editor of Barron's Magazine. And this is the

0:27.9

economic roundtable about where we are perceiving the economy here on the East Coast. I'm in New

0:34.6

England. Jim's in Keystone State, and Alan is in Maryland, the great state of

0:40.9

Maryland, very close, not too far from something called Washington, D.C. So gentlemen, I come to the state,

0:48.7

private enterprise, the markets, all of that. We push that aside and we go for the dreamy future

0:54.0

of artificial intelligence.

0:55.9

And I read from a wonderful column I recommend by Robert Armstrong in today's FT.

1:01.1

AI enthusiasts wave off the motion that technology will lead to mass unemployment.

1:06.4

A lot of people once drove horse-drawn carts and made buggy whips, they say.

1:10.8

Losing those jobs to

1:11.9

automobiles didn't lead to breadlines. On the contrary, Dumers respond, in the case of AI, we're not

1:18.8

the drivers, we're the horses. The optimists retort. That horses live, lives got better, didn't they?

1:25.5

As they went from work animals to luxury items, that's no help. Have a look at what happened to the

1:31.2

equine population in the first half of the 20th century. Okay,

1:36.0

where are the horses and we're going to have a better life ahead of us?

1:40.3

We're told if you're thinking your job is at risk for AI.

1:44.5

Alan, I'm not going to butter you up here.

1:47.0

I'm going to come right to you.

1:48.2

Your thoughts about AI, given what we know now is that it's spreading throughout the economy

1:53.8

and taking surprising turns, a lot of competition.

1:57.9

Jim mentioned the spending that's going on.

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