I'm John Bachelor. I welcome Gordon Chang at Gordon Chi Chang, my colleague and co-host,

and Victoria Coates,

the Vice President of the Heritage Foundation, and we turn to a topic that is special, has been my whole educated life since the 20th century, the special relationship, so-called,

between the United States and mothership Britain.

You will recall famously on the other side of the revolution,

Britain was a founder of colonies throughout the new world.

One of them was the American colonies,

and the revolution of the 1770s and 1780s led us to a dispute that is long stewing,

but at the same time was overcome sometime in the 20th century because of mutual need.

It led to a victory and a triumph of two governing styles that could work together, that is Parliament and Congress.

However, Gordon and Victoria, a very good day to you. I want to begin immediately with the irony

of special relationship. Victoria, what are your thoughts about the special relationship?

We were both educated

in the 20th century. Was it something that was regarded as magical, hard won? Let me see a small

print. How did you think of it when you first learned and studied it over the years? Good day to you.

Well, good day to you, John, and good day to you, Gordon. You know, this is something

that has been fundamental to the American experience, almost from the get-go. And I was very

interested to read yesterday about how King George III received Benjamin Franklin. I'm a native

Philadelphia, and so I'm particularly interested in those kinds of relationships. And when

Franklin was named the first ambassador to the Great Britain, I mean, the king received him very

graciously. I think there was an understanding, even during the conflict of the revolution,

the period after leading up to the war of 1812, that even if we had

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