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S8 Ep804: Michael Bernstam discusses the UAE exiting OPEC, suggesting the organization is a 20th-century artifact. He explains how outdated rules favoring only Russia and Saudi Arabia are driving members to leave the group.

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🗓️ 29 April 2026

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Michael Bernstam discusses the UAE exiting OPEC, suggesting the organization is a 20th-century artifact. He explains how outdated rules favoring only Russia and Saudi Arabia are driving members to leave the group.
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0:00.0

This is John Batchel.

0:02.5

Colleague Michael Bernstein of the Hoover Institution comments on the significance of OPEC breaking up.

0:09.2

UAE announces its leaving.

0:11.1

Why?

0:12.2

It was restricted by OPEC rules for far less than it's capable of pumping every day.

0:18.6

Why?

0:20.6

It joins Qatar

0:22.2

at leaving OPEC,

0:25.3

and Iraq is expected to leave soon enough.

0:29.2

OPEC is left over from the 20th century,

0:31.6

and its rules seem out of date, strangely.

0:35.1

Or, let's put it this way,

0:36.4

the rules favor Saudi Arabia and Russia, nobody else.

0:40.3

OPEC might be an artifact of the 20th century.

0:45.3

More of this tonight.

0:48.3

Here's Michael.

0:49.3

I'm interested in those kinds of relationships.

0:52.3

And when Franklin was named the first ambassador to the Great Britain, I mean, the king

0:59.0

received him very graciously.

1:00.7

I think there was an understanding, even during the conflict of the revolution, the period

1:06.6

after leading up to the war of 1812, that even if we had our differences and those differences

1:12.8

rose to the level of war, we still were going to be deeply and profoundly interconnected.

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