colleague Mark Simon reporting on Jimmy Lai's fate in a solitary cell condemned by the government in Hong Kong and the government in Beijing.

Why? What is to be gained? Mark answers it very crisply. What is to be gained is what you see, sadismcuting a 78 79 year old man with diabetes for no crime whatsoever

in front of the whole world here's mark i think internally inside with the hong kong government

they have to have this narrative that j Lai is the reason why everything's going wrong.

They still do it.

I mean, unfortunately, we are seeing some things from Xi Jinping that essentially he's becoming more hard line across the board in China.

I would, and I would say that's out of

insecurity. So I think in many ways, he's probably got people in his ear saying, you can't let up

on this guy, Jimmy, lie, because other people will pop up up. So it's deterrence, I think,

is the only thing in their mind. But I think most of them know that's not true anymore.

And in fact, it's counterproductive now because

Jimmy is actually picking up, the awareness of Jimmy Lai is picking up significantly in China.