S8 Ep780: PREVIEW FOR LATER: Jonathan Schanzer outlines historic negotiations between Lebanon and Israel over the "blue line" border. While President Joseph Aoun seeks engagement, the talks are muddled by the continued presence of Hezbollah. Lasting peace requires
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🗓️ 21 April 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchler. |
| 0:02.0 | Conversation with the Executive Director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracy is Jonathan |
| 0:06.4 | Schanzer. |
| 0:07.0 | Yes, all lies on Tehran for the negotiation. |
| 0:10.0 | However, an historic, and to my knowledge never before negotiation, is underway at the U.S. State Department in Washington, D.C., between Lebanon and Israel, |
| 0:20.0 | about the direction both countries |
| 0:23.3 | are taking to deal with the threat, the longstanding violent threat of Hizbalah. |
| 0:29.7 | Here's Jonathan to explain. Much more tonight. Well, I think it is all playing out in real time, |
| 0:36.2 | John. I think on the one hand, this is already |
| 0:38.8 | historic. It's not quite peace, but I mean, we do get a sense that the Lebanese government is |
| 0:44.1 | interested in negotiating a number of things. One, I think they'd like to have a mutually |
| 0:48.7 | agreed upon border that would solve for the problem of Hezbollah. Hasbalah has always said |
| 0:53.9 | that there are a couple of parcels of land that still belong to Lebanon. |
| 0:57.8 | These are, of course, disputed territories. |
| 1:00.1 | I don't believe that history or topography or geography have actually redounded to their benefit in the end, |
| 1:07.3 | but they have claimed that there are certain territories that they belong in Lebanon. |
| 1:13.2 | The Israelis and the Lebanese government are starting to talk about the so-called blue line |
| 1:17.5 | and to formalize it and to end the conflict over that border. |
| 1:21.6 | Then beyond that, there will be this question of non-aggression, the idea that the two sides |
| 1:25.9 | no longer wish to fight one another, that will, |
| 1:29.1 | I think, further diffuse whatever Hezbollah has been trying to argue that war with Israel is |
| 1:35.6 | necessary. And then there is the question of normalization that I think can still come after. |
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