I'm John Batchler. I welcome Henry Sikolsky, my good colleague.

He is the executive director of the

Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center. The non-proliferation treaty is due for review and improvement

later on this month in New York City at the UN. Henry, a very good evening to you. You published

in the Wall Street Journal editorial page,

recommendations to the NPT for improvement. How so, Henry. Good evening to you.

Good evening. Always great to be on your show. Thank you for having me.

We have been accommodating a popular view of the treaty that more or less says you can get

right up to the brink of bomb making by making the fuel for the bombs, enrich uranium or separating

weapons usable plutonium now, for a very long time. And Iran has seized upon this and said, indeed, the NPT or the Nuclear Nonproliferation

Treaty actually recognizes a right to make nuclear fuel.

If this bombing of Iran in June of last year and now earlier and currently this year is to mean anything,

it's got to be that that can't be true in all cases.

I would argue that this is something that we have to talk about finally.

We should stop making our generous

mistake of looking the other way on this issue, hereditary. And in specific, what we need to say,

I think, is that while we've already allowed a number of countries without nuclear weapons to make nuclear fuel,

that's it. We've got to stop henceforth. And that because of the experience with Iran and other

examples where countries like North Korea who are in the treaty made nuclear fuel and all of a sudden

they broke out and said, well, we want to get bombs.

We should know better. There is no assertion that countries have a right to make nuclear fuel,

not only in the text of the treaty, but there was a dispute about this when they negotiated the treaty,

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