This is John Batchelor, conversation with John Hardy of FTT. What about Ukraine? It is left out,

and I asked John Hardy of FD if it feels that way. Yes, it does. They're concerned about

policies going away from them, all eyes on the streets of our moves of the Bob El Mendeb or Tehran

or the nuclear pile buried under a mountain in Iran.

What about the ongoing fight with Russia?

There are reasons to cheer.

Ukrainians have invented entirely new,

not only drone warfare but drone interceptor warfare.

Underway now, capable of directing a anti-dron drone from thousands of kilometers away. Here's John Hardy on the policy concerns, not the

hardware, the policy concerns, and who's paying attention? More tomorrow.

I think it's certainly a concern for Kiev. I mean, Zelensky has been very, very public

about this. So that's not a secret. We've already talked about the sanctions and oil revenue

issue. That's certainly a concern for the Ukrainians. They're also worried about the fact that U.S. White House attention is drawn away from Ukraine in the peace talks,

which prior to their war had not been showing signs of imminent success, but had been gaining at least a tiny bit of momentum.

And so, you know, we now haven't had a trilateral meeting since the war began.

I think Ukrainians are also worried about U.S. resources, especially air defense missiles like Pact

3 for the Patriot system.

And so you've seen Zelensky very vocal with his European partners

trying to press them to really dig deep into their own stockpiles

and send what they can.