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S8 Ep722: 6. Anatol Lieven analyzes Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s low approval ratings and his party’s fragmentation during international crises. He explores Britain’s diplomatic balance between public opinion and its essential security alliance with the United Sta

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 10 April 2026

⏱️ 4 minutes

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6. Anatol Lieven analyzes Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s low approval ratings and his party’s fragmentation during international crises. He explores Britain’s diplomatic balance between public opinion and its essential security alliance with the United States. (6)
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel, speaking with Anatole Levin, the director of the Eurasia program at the Quincy Institute

0:22.3

for Responsible Statecraft, and I turn to Great Britain. I read the telegraph and the times. I very

0:29.5

carefully follow the financial times and the economist, and it is difficult to solve what is going on

0:35.3

in Great Britain right now with regard the prime minister,

0:38.5

who enjoys an overwhelming majority in Parliament, plus 165, I believe.

0:43.6

Kier Starrmer.

0:44.5

However, he's exceedingly low in the polls for approval,

0:49.5

and his own party is fragmenting into pieces I can only guess at. He's in the Middle East. He's

0:56.6

coming back. The question is he's made the right choice not to get involved in the war fighting.

1:01.5

Does he gain from this? Yes. Well, Stama, in the end, did follow public opinion on that,

1:07.4

although not completely, of course, because, you know, US bombers are still flying out of

1:13.5

Britain. Now, according to the British government, they are only attacking Iranian missile sites,

1:20.7

but frankly, we just, we don't know that. For all we know, they could just be doing what they

1:27.0

always do. So, you know, they could just be doing what they always do.

1:28.3

So, you know, Stama is still desperately anxious, you know,

1:33.7

because this is the absolute British security doctrine to try to keep in with the United States,

1:39.2

while, of course, also bowing to public opinion, which in Britain is, you know, overwhelmingly opposed

1:46.2

to this war. Now, I think this strengthens Stama's position in a way indirectly, because with all

1:56.9

this going on, there will be less will in the Labour Party to get rid of him, because

2:04.6

it was very widely assumed that after regional elections next month, which are predicted to be a

2:11.2

disaster for Labour, that there would indeed be a push to get rid of him and replace him with

2:17.2

somebody else. Well, in the middle of a

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