I'm John Bachelor. This is the New World Report. Professor Evan Ellis, U.S. Army

War College Strategic Studies Institute, U.S. Army War College, Strategic Studies Institute.

Venezuela.

You will recall Venezuela much in the news these last months and years for the dictatorship of a man named Maduro, who inherited it from a man named Chavez.

Right now, however, the palace is occupied by Dulce Rodriguez, who is the sister of

Jorge Rodriguez, head of the Assembly. This government is what's left after the rendition of

Maduro to the U.S. to stand charges for narco-terrorism. However, the Trump administration, through the offices of the State Department, I believe,

have made a decision to work with Delsie Rodriguez and her brother,

though they are implicated vastly in the crimes that Maduro is accused of,

to work with them to make what is called a transition.

This is very, very complex.

I don't know if it's ever been tried, but so far it looks positive.

Dussie Rodriguez has reason to trade anything she's told to do for her future,

because she has been sanctioned. She could be charged

right up to the day that she joins her ancestors in heaven she can be charged for

complicity in crimes against the Venezuelan people and the world. However, Professor,

this looks positive. The opposition is working with

Dulcey Rodriguez about oil, but after that, I lose the chain of decision-making. How are they

working together? And this certainly does look like a positive?

It's a great question, John. And certainly the concept that Secretary of State Rubio has put forth is this idea of to stabilize Venezuela to reopen the economy and eventually work towards

a transition. Some people have their doubts whether you'll actually get to part three, including many in the Venezuela and eventually work towards a transition. Some people have their doubts whether you'll

actually get to part three, including many in the Venezuelan opposition itself. But essentially,

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