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S8 Ep716: 4. The New Lunar Laser Race Guest: Rick Fischer. Rick Fischer explains how Artemis 2 demonstrated laser communications, providing denser data transmission than radio. This technology is essential for monitoring Chinese lunar activities as the race to the

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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4. The New Lunar Laser Race Guest: Rick Fischer. Rick Fischer explains how Artemis 2 demonstrated laser communications, providing denser data transmission than radio. This technology is essential for monitoring Chinese lunar activities as the race to the moon intensifies. (4)
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I'm John Bachelor, to the moon and back. Sounds like Jules Verne. No? It's NASA in action. Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang.

1:09.9

joins me as my colleague and co-host and friend. And Gordon and I are old enough to remember the last trip to the moon. That was late 1972 as my memory.

1:12.7

Richard Nixon had just been re-elected,

1:21.0

and the Vietnam War was deep into a catastrophe. The Soviet Union was dominating Eurasia. The Chinese communists were persecuting their own people elaborately, and Mao was on the trail for more and more genius fantasy delusion sadism. However,

1:33.1

the U.S. did successfully reach the moon and made many landings, including one heroic, Apollo 13,

1:41.0

which didn't land, but exercised the skills of NASA. And then the long pause.

1:49.3

Finally, a delivery system. NASA goes back to space, back to leaving Earth, low Earth orbit,

1:57.7

back to circumnavigating the moon, although not in orbit, and back to returning.

2:03.8

There is something new here.

2:05.3

I learned from Rick Fisher of International Assessment and Strategy Center.

2:09.1

So far from saying, been there, done that, why are we doing this?

2:13.2

There's something called laser communication, and that provides the ability to communicate, perhaps,

2:20.2

in a fashion that would provide video and remembering that the road ahead can include,

2:27.3

maybe in our lifetime, certainly in the 21st century, a moon colony and beyond. So, Rick,

2:33.2

what is laser communication? How does it work and how did they use

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