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Today. I'm John Batser with Maron Magnet, who's great fun writing up a new book about John Adams and the XYZ affair and the quasi-war,

all the events that we had moments of in the seventh Adams and the XYZ affair and the quasi-war, all the events that we had moments of in the

seventh grade in the 20th century. And then it wasn't until Myron did me the favor of reminding me

that I'm supposed to know all this. There's a new book, Lindsay Chervinsky's making the presidency,

John Adams and the precedents that forged the republic.

Okay, millions for defense, but not a pence for tribute.

That's one of the phrases that comes out of this period.

John Adams is seeking peace.

And is he successful, Byron?

He is successful, but it takes, again, more than a year for his envoys to accomplish it.

They negotiate, they offer this, they offer that, they finally come up with a treaty in which they agree to pay attention, not to interfere with each other's trade, which is the real issue,

but as for what to do about any kind of reparations, that's put off in the past.

But it's a treaty, it's peace, treaty of amity.

And unfortunately, the news of this treaty does not arrive until the day on which John Adams learns that he has lost the election of 1800.

Two times, Jefferson.

Well, he doesn't know to whom yet.

This is another part of the interesting story.

All he knows is he lost and somebody else won.

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