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S8 Ep710: 16. KING CHARLES AND THE ANGLO-AMERICAN ALLIANCE. GREGORY COPLEY. Gregory Copley discusses the King’s role in mending rifts between unpopular US and UK leaders. The visit celebrates American independence while offering the King a platform to improve dip

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🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 7 minutes

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16. KING CHARLES AND THE ANGLO-AMERICAN ALLIANCE.GREGORY COPLEY. Gregory Copley discusses the King’s role in mending rifts between unpopular US and UK leaders. The visit celebrates Americanindependence while offering the King a platform to improve diplomatic relations. (18)

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0:00.0

I'm John Betts with my good friend and colleague Gregory Copley, who teaches me monarchy, especially constitutional monarchy in his new book, Noble State.

0:24.7

The monarch himself is coming to America at the end of this month.

0:28.1

King Charles will address a joint session of Congress, but his job is this.

0:33.4

Can he knit together the special relationship, or at least a show of it between the Prime Minister

0:39.3

Kier-Starmer, who has his troubles at home and low poll numbers, and the President of the

0:44.3

United States, who has his troubles at home and has low poll numbers? Can the king do the job, Gregory?

0:51.4

He can to a certain degree, but that's becoming more difficult by the day as the political

0:58.4

and strategic rift between the United States and its allies, and particularly Britain,

1:05.0

and get worse and worse, and much of that to do with the collapse of NATO, which was going to

1:10.3

happen with or without him.

1:12.3

And it also reflects the rising tensions over Iran.

1:18.0

For President Trump, the visit by the King will be very positive.

1:23.8

It will show that the alliance still exists, that the United Kingdom and the United States can talk together after 250 years of U.S. independence from the UK.

1:34.5

The king could not have avoided this trip because it would have been churlish for the United Kingdom not to help the United States

1:45.3

celebrate this great achievement of 250 years of independence.

1:50.2

But the king is under a lot of attack for doing the trip because it's because it's seen as

1:57.0

rewarding President Trump instead of rewarding the United States and its people.

2:02.7

And there's going to be the opportunity, I think, for the King and the President to have private discussions,

2:11.2

during which time I think the King will definitely offer some cautious and very carefully worded ideas about how to improve

2:23.1

this relationship and how to tone down the political level animosity between the US government

2:29.5

and the UK government of Secere Stama.

2:32.3

So that's going to be positive. This may be one of the last

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