S8 Ep689: 12. PRESERVING THE MEMORY OF CIVIL WAR DEAD GUEST: Fitzhugh Brundage Fitzhugh Brundage explains the uneven history of Civil War mass graves and the creation of Andersonville National Cemetery. Clara Barton played a key role in identifying the 13,000 Union
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12. PRESERVING THE MEMORY OF CIVIL WAR DEAD GUEST: Fitzhugh Brundage Fitzhugh Brundage explains the uneven history of Civil War mass graves and the creation of Andersonville National Cemetery. Clara Barton played a key role in identifying the 13,000 Union soldiers buried there. (12)
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with Professor Fitzhue-Brandage. |
| 0:18.8 | The book is a fate worse than hell. |
| 0:22.4 | What happened to? |
| 0:31.4 | The mass graves become contentious. It's flabbergasting to me, Professor, that there's any pushback in the South about the mass graves, and that the reburials or the identification becomes willy-nilly, |
| 0:39.6 | not a matter of the state concern, not a matter of the Washington concern or Congress. |
| 0:45.2 | Where are the bones today of Andersonville? |
| 0:47.7 | Where are they of point lookout? |
| 0:50.2 | What remains? |
| 0:51.4 | What remains is, yes, I think one of the most poignant illustrations of how |
| 0:59.6 | uneasy the memory of these prison camps has proven to be. So the story of the remains varies from |
| 1:08.0 | place to place. And Camp Chase was a union prison for Confederates |
| 1:16.2 | in Columbus, Ohio. And Camp Chase, what happened there was Confederates were buried in a, |
| 1:25.7 | there was a Confederate burial ground, and that burial ground, when the camps were |
| 1:34.1 | torn down and used for other purposes after the Civil War, that Confederate burial ground |
| 1:41.1 | became essentially surrounded by a residential neighborhood, which is now not downtown |
| 1:49.4 | Columbus, but much closer to it than it was during the war. And you can still go to the Confederate |
| 1:55.7 | burial ground within this neighborhood, but it's effectively lost to, you know, you literally have to |
| 2:05.0 | seek it out. But that's much better than what happened at, for example, point lookout and at |
| 2:11.2 | Camp Douglas. Camp Douglas was the major prison in Chicago. And Camp Douglas, the Confederates were buried with some degree |
| 2:21.2 | of order and attention, I say some, apparently. But then after the great Chicago fire and the |
| 2:28.8 | growth of Chicago, the decision was made to clean out that burial ground and the Confederate bodies, the Confederate |
| 2:37.3 | names were essentially forced into a mass grave that is now a mound in a park in Chicago. |
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