S8 Ep682: 1. Anatol Lieven discusses President Trump’s response to the Iran conflict and rising energy prices. He analyzes NATO's fragmenting unity as European allies refuse military participation and prioritize economic interests over American strategy. (1)
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🗓️ 2 April 2026
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1. Anatol Lieven discusses President Trump’s response to the Iran conflict and rising energy prices. He analyzes NATO's fragmenting unity as Europeanallies refuse military participation and prioritize economic interests over American strategy. (1)
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel. I welcome Anatole-Leven and the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft reporting on and commenting on not only the war in the Gulf, that would be the Strait of Hormuz and the crisis for those countries depended upon oil and fertilizer and other critical elements coming out of the Gulf, but also it connects to the |
| 0:40.6 | larger story of Eurasia, the supercontinent, the world island, because there is an ongoing |
| 0:47.2 | unresolved conflict that is very dangerous in Ukraine. The headlines, however, reflect the events |
| 0:53.4 | of these last hours. Trump tells allies, |
| 0:56.6 | writes the Financial Times, including UK, to, quote, go get your own oil. U.S. won't be there |
| 1:03.3 | to help you anymore. That was a headline yesterday before the president's remarks. Now the |
| 1:08.5 | remarks turned to the live news |
| 1:12.4 | of the day. Oil jumps |
| 1:14.8 | 7% as Trump's speech revives anxiety |
| 1:17.7 | about Iran conflict. It would appear, |
| 1:21.1 | Anatole, from yesterday to today |
| 1:23.8 | that the president's 20 minutes at the podium |
| 1:26.7 | did not calmly anxiety nor satisfy |
| 1:31.0 | the unknowns about this war. |
| 1:34.2 | Your comment immediately, not only did we have a very short speech given the scale of the |
| 1:41.8 | crisis, but I felt that it was a speech that was out of time. |
| 1:46.2 | This is a speech I would have expected on February 28th, not on April 1st. |
| 1:51.8 | Good evening to you, Anatole. |
| 1:54.6 | Hello, John. Yes, well, I think you're absolutely right. |
| 1:58.0 | I get the strong impression that Trump and his advisors really don't know |
| 2:04.0 | what to do anymore. The Iranians are basically, you know, still refusing to compromise. Well, |
| 2:12.5 | Trump has not offered them a real compromise. And, you know, obviously given the surge in energy prices and Trump's |
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