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S8 Ep677: 3. HEADLINE: Investigating Subversive Chinese Influence and Funding in America GUEST: Charles Burton, Gordon Chang SUMMARY: Charles Burton discusses billionaire Neville Roy Singum’s alleged role in funding radical organizations to subvert Western democrac

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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3. HEADLINE: Investigating Subversive Chinese Influence and Funding in AmericaGUEST: Charles Burton, Gordon ChangSUMMARY: Charles Burton discusses billionaire Neville Roy Singum’s alleged role in funding radical organizations to subvert Westerndemocracy. The discussion highlights China's use of social media algorithms and direct donations to influence youth. (3)
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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor. Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang with me, and we're very pleased to welcome our friend Charles Burton of synopsis to comment on a story recently at Fox News. China's American Mao. Inside Singham's blueprint to quote wage war for a new world order. This reads something like a novel from the 1930s, but it is not. Neville Roy Singham.

0:41.7

I'm welcome Charles, and the puzzle that came to me immediately, because I didn't recognize

0:47.1

the name, have I missed an important piece of reading? Charles, who is Neville Roy Singham,

0:53.6

who may or may not fancy himself as the American

0:56.7

Mao? Good heavens. Good day, too, Charles. A good day. Well, I mean, Mr. Singham was extraordinarily

1:03.6

successful in the high-tech sector and a billionaire, and he believes in Maoist revolution. I mean, you know, the last one and is supporting

1:15.7

all sorts of extreme leftist organizations in the United States and elsewhere with generous

1:22.4

donations of tens and hundreds of millions of dollars to encourage them to oppose the United States, really,

1:30.6

and attempt to subvert democracy and bring about a Marxist revolutionary regime throughout the world.

1:38.9

So I guess he's like Mao in the sense that he has a vision of complete control of all people through non-democratic dictatorships based on Marxist principles, which is, you know, an interesting stance for someone who was so successful in capitalism.

1:56.0

Anyway, he's working out of Shanghai. Clearly, everything that he's doing supports the overall purposes of the Chinese Communist Party,

2:05.6

which, as I've argued in a piece that Gordon is producing, has a primary foreign policy of subversion, not diplomacy.

2:13.7

And the Chinese Communist Party's United Front Work Department, which is the agency designed to

2:19.1

try and bring diverse elements throughout the world, influence operations and other subversive means

2:28.4

to support the purposes of the Chinese Communist Party, has a larger budget. The party's United

2:33.5

Front Work Department has a larger budget. The parties, the United Front Work

2:34.8

Department has a larger budget, more personnel than the entire Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

2:41.1

So, you know, China's idea is through use of sophisticated algorithms and social media and

2:47.9

through trying to shape discourse and subvert policymakers through various forms of

2:55.9

bribery, some subtle, some not, attempts to try and subvert the United States from within.

3:04.5

And Mr. Singham is doing something slightly different, which is that he's giving the money

3:08.4

directly. The Chinese Communist Party's approach is largely focused on undeniability, on deniability and

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