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S8 Ep677: 2. HEADLINE: Naval Lessons from the Strait of Hormuz for Taiwan’s Defense GUEST: Jim Holmes, Gordon Chang SUMMARY: Professor Jim Holmes applies naval lessons from the Iran war to a potential Taiwan conflict. He emphasizes using geography for defense, prol

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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2. HEADLINE: Naval Lessons from the Strait of Hormuz for Taiwan’s DefenseGUEST: Jim Holmes, Gordon ChangSUMMARY: Professor Jim Holmes applies naval lessons from the Iran war to a potential Taiwanconflict. He emphasizes using geography for defense, prolonging wars to assemble forces, and utilizing low-cost drone technology. (2)
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0:00.0

I'm John Batson, Gordon Chang, at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague and co-host,

0:20.8

were observing the crisis in the Middle East and the straight-of-four moves

0:25.9

and how it is being used as a weapon against the United States, against Europe,

0:31.7

against the whole world. This is a global conflict because any restriction in the energy

0:36.7

coming out of the Gulf has an add-on

0:39.3

effect of undermining the confidence in governments everywhere. So we're observing the Gulf,

0:46.7

and others are observing the Gulf for particular reasons. We go now to Professor Jim Holmes

0:52.8

watching the Gulf conflict.

0:55.0

He is a professor at the Naval War College, and he blogs very carefully about the lessons learned while we're witnessing them,

1:04.0

because he has students who are watching this as well.

1:07.0

And he's drawing on the Iran war so far, especially the conflict we see now

1:14.1

involving the U.S. Navy in the Strait of Hormuz, and applying it to Taiwan. The theory of

1:21.3

the Taiwan conflict has worked again and again. This looks like a new view. Jim, Professor, a very good evening to you. Immediately,

1:30.6

the Taiwan story becomes obvious because we're talking about an attack by a very large

1:36.7

and a very effective and overwhelming power against one particular geographical place. That would be

1:43.4

Taipei and Taiwan.

1:45.3

So you have four lessons, and all of them are welcome.

1:50.4

Before we get into the four lessons, though,

1:54.2

is China indicating right now that the Gulf War pleases them or displeases them in general, that this is a source of oil for them.

2:03.5

Are they in trouble, Jim?

2:06.4

I think they're conflicted.

2:08.3

It seems like they're probably deliberating about how to view this.

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