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website. This is John Batchel. Conversation with Sinan Chidi of the Foundation for the

Defense of Democracy is about Erdogan and his cabinet seeking audiences in Tehran on the phone and communication.

Why?

To end the war.

What does Erdogan get out of it?

What are the advantages and disadvantages of ending the war in Iran?

Here's Sanandu explain.

Asia Minor, the globe watching Erdogan.

More than I

I don't know how much weight he has with Tehran but he certainly has direct line of communication

with whatever's left of the regime

Turkey's foreign minister Hakkan fidang gave an interview last weekend

saying that they're in daily talks with the Iranian regime

as well as you know countries that uh that, you know, in the entire

in the actual Gulf, the Gulf states themselves, you know, whether it's the UAE, the Saudis,

...