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S8 Ep658: 2. Author Leila Philip explores the "coral reefs of North America"—beaver-created wetlands that boost biodiversity fifteen-fold. She blends personal observations from Connecticut with Indigenous ecological knowledge, specifically the Algonquin legend of t

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

Society & Culture, Arts, News, Books

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 March 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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2. Author Leila Philip explores the "coral reefs of North America"—beaver-created wetlands that boost biodiversity fifteen-fold. She blends personal observations from Connecticut with Indigenous ecological knowledge, specifically the Algonquin legend of the giant beaver. This narrative emphasizes the beaver's role as a radical, intentional environmental transformer. (2)

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0:00.0

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0:35.0

I'm John Bashar, Professor Lila Philip of the College of Holy Cross is here.

0:40.6

Her new book is Beaverland, A One Weird Rodent Made America.

0:44.5

We've now left Americana history, and we come to Woodstock, Connecticut, where the professor lives,

0:50.7

and she begins her tale of beaver exploration and explanation by bonding with a beaver in a local pond

1:00.6

down pulpit rock road, which is not paved according to this report.

1:05.1

I don't think it has been, but this is a part of Connecticut that enjoys beavers.

1:10.7

And, Professor, it's charming the way you observe the beaver.

1:14.7

They're nocturnal creatures.

1:16.4

So you had to go near sunset.

1:18.6

Is that how you observed?

1:21.8

Yeah, thank you.

1:22.9

And I'm actually glad not to be talking about colonial period when beavers were a currency anymore.

1:29.1

It was so kind of heartbreaking to go back into that historical moment and think about that.

1:34.5

But yes, beavers are actually crepuscular, I would discover.

1:41.3

So they come out in the evening and they work nocturnally at night.

1:45.9

So I was walking one evening and I witnessed a beaver making a pond near my house.

1:51.8

And it was one of the most incredible things I'd ever seen.

1:55.4

It just literally stopped me in my tracks.

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