I'm John Batchel with Rick Fisher, who brings me news of NASA ignition, re-igniting.

The drift from the 20th century was obvious to everyone who looked at the program,

chiefly because we've been watching SpaceX's triumphs these last years,

launch after launch of boosters, reusing them, cutting down the cost of getting to Earth orbit, and certainly

you need to cut down the cost to get to Earth Moon system. And that's what Rick is presenting here

from Jared Isaacman and NASA announced to the media. The date of 28, 2029 is material to

the Trump administration, but this is far beyond one president,

far beyond putting his name on a desk. This is about a program that must be sustained with

equipment and with investment in that equipment. Did Mr. Eisenhower feel confident that he could

win the money from Congress, because that is the choke point.

Well, John, the presentations by Isickman and his NASA colleagues on the 24th made very clear that the focus on the moon, the moon base, all the construction is going to entail a wide

distribution of NASA spending. It is going to include rapid upgrades, investments in the NASA infrastructure,

in many places in this country. It's going to entail the mobilization of many

congressional districts. If Isickman succeeds in getting this program

rolling as quickly as he has to, it is going to have a momentum. And at least politically,

it's going to be very hard to stop. It's going to be almost impossible for, let's say, an Obama-like president to come in and

cancel this program as Obama actually did in 2010.

China.

China has a program to get to the moon.

China has a program to put people on the moon.

I don't know about their plans to have a permanent settlement. Do they talk that way, right?

Absolutely. They want multiple settlements, permanent settlements. They have a plan and a

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