This is John Batchel, a conversation with Charles Burton at Ottawa about Mark Carney, the new

Prime Minister of Canada, and his rhetorical approach to China, which the U.S. sees as an adversary,

a predatory adversary, and Mr. Carney is looking for language that suggests none of the

above. Partner comes up several times, asking for a Chinese term for the relationship.

Detail. Canada does less than 4% of trade with China. It does 70% or more with the U.S. There's not logic here.

There's emotion, politics, maneuvering, to be continued. Here's Charles.

In the election campaign, Mr. Carney did identify China as the greatest threat to Canadian

security and sovereignty. Subsequently, he's done a severe reversal. Two years ago, Canada

developed what they call the Indo-Pacific strategy. And in that document, they identified China as an

increasingly disruptive power, increasingly disruptive power. At the time, I felt that was rather

weak and suggested strategic competitor or preferably strategic adversary. After Mr. Cron Carney came into power, he acceded to

the Chinese government's request that we start using Chinese language to characterize the

relationship and declared that Canada and China have a strategic partnership. And when he was in the

Great Hall of the People recently meeting with

Xi Jinping, Mr. Carney made a reference to the New World Order, which is, of course,

in that context, one would see as China's community of the common destiny of mankind

scheme to make China the superpower hegemon over the entire planet.