S8 Ep502: Michael Vlahos as Germanicus and Gaius lament the decline of Latin fluency that once united historical elites from seventeenth-century diplomats to America's Founders, warning that society is sinking into primitive forms because young people no longer r
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🗓️ 23 February 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I am, guys. This is Lundianian Live. |
| 0:10.0 | Germanicus is here. The Cinturns are here. It is a corker of a night out there. |
| 0:15.3 | Nor'easter, we're sweeping over America. And we're witnessing America in the 21st century from our very happy |
| 0:24.5 | roost here, warm in our wine bar by the Thames, 92 AD. Germanicus, I've discovered something |
| 0:31.8 | reading serially about the 17th century in England, the English Civil War period, that the most learned of men |
| 0:40.1 | could communicate with the French and the Spanish and the Dutch and the Italian, especially |
| 0:48.9 | the Italian, not because they had good languages that when they went abroad, |
| 0:54.7 | but because all the educated men and many of the educated courtly women |
| 0:59.2 | were fluent in Latin and Greek and Hebrew. |
| 1:04.7 | And all of a sudden I made a connection while I'm reading this. |
| 1:08.7 | A man named Downing graduates the first class of Harvard College, 1838, |
| 1:14.7 | is 1638, I believe. |
| 1:17.8 | And he is instructed when at Harvard for the three terms he's there. |
| 1:22.7 | They put it together the Puritans because they mean to move the capital of the Massachusetts |
| 1:26.6 | Bay Colony to Cambridge. That doesn't work out. So they name it Cambridge to give it the |
| 1:31.1 | aura of an educated place. The first class and every class subsequent to that must only conduct |
| 1:38.5 | its business in Latin. During the day and in the dorms at night, only Latin. |
| 1:51.5 | George Downing, the protagonist of a story, he finds that greatly useful when many years later, as a spy and agent for Oliver Cromwell, he confers with the French prime minister, who is a cardinal, a Mazarin. |
| 2:03.9 | Mazarin has no English. |
| 2:05.9 | Downing has no French. |
| 2:07.4 | So they conduct their business, dividing up the empire between the Puritans and the French. |
| 2:13.3 | They're going to make an alliance against the Spanish, against the Habsburgs. |
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