S8 Ep495: 3. Stevenson-Yang 3: Ghost Cities and the Infrastructure Credit Boom. Massive cash injections fueled construction of empty "ghost cities" and emulated Western landmarks, leading to a monumental credit expansion that eventually dwarfed the American system.
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 22 February 2026
⏱️ 14 minutes
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3. Stevenson-Yang 3: Ghost Cities and the Infrastructure Credit Boom. Massive cash injections fueled construction of empty "ghost cities" and emulated Western landmarks, leading to a monumental credit expansion that eventually dwarfed the American system. Guest: Anne Stevenson-Yang.
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchel. |
| 0:08.0 | The Chinese Miracle. The book is Wild Ride, a short history of the opening and closing of the Chinese economy. |
| 0:16.0 | First, the opening part, there's been an international banking crisis, and the way that the Beijing Chinese |
| 0:24.2 | Communist Party responds to it, as Anne says, in their tasseled loafers, is to host cash on the |
| 0:31.1 | population, and that creates opportunities. The opportunities, however, look like the creation of a golem monster. |
| 0:40.9 | And this is Anne's vision, Anne's metaphor. It works. But what we have is a change of opinion of the Chinese people. |
| 0:50.1 | No longer, as Anne writes, or do you want a home in a car and access to cigarettes, which at one point were understood to be keeping your lungs healthy? |
| 1:01.0 | But you want to be rich. You want to grab the brass ring. Was this going on all across the country or just the coastal cities, the big cities, Anne? |
| 1:10.2 | I think everybody had this idea that they could grab some of this cash that was raining |
| 1:15.5 | down on China. |
| 1:16.6 | Everybody heard about the companies that were listing on international markets and all of the |
| 1:23.7 | private investment. |
| 1:24.7 | And so people wanted to, you know, people in the, in the countryside |
| 1:29.0 | moved to the cities. They weren't allowed to bring their families, but, you know, men and women |
| 1:33.7 | would move to the big cities and try to get a bit of this. Yes, and they got a lot of it. |
| 1:38.9 | We have the creation of what I came to first understand was something strange called ghost cities. Now, |
| 1:47.1 | Anne gives us details about what was going on with this enormous amounts of cash. There were |
| 1:52.5 | three Hong Kongs built, two Manhattans, there was a little Paris, and there was a red square, |
| 2:00.2 | complete with an Orthodox church that nobody would ever |
| 2:02.8 | worship in. It was only for background pictures. Probably my favorite is a Manhattan that includes |
| 2:11.0 | the Javits Center. The people who built the Javis Center, have they ever been there? It's really a windy barn. |
| 2:18.3 | It's not something to emulate. |
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