S8 Ep495: 2. Stevenson-Yang 2: The Rise of Red Capitalists and Princelings. Following the Tiananmen tragedy, China attracted capital by empowering "princelings" to manage state assets, creating a unique system where political connections were essential for business
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🗓️ 22 February 2026
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2. Stevenson-Yang 2: The Rise of Red Capitalists and Princelings. Following the Tiananmen tragedy, China attracted capital by empowering "princelings" to manage state assets, creating a unique system where political connections were essential for business. Guest: Anne Stevenson-Yang.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Datsworth, Anne Stevenson Yang. |
| 0:07.2 | The new book is Wild Ride, a short history of the opening and closing of the Chinese economy. |
| 0:12.6 | Tiananmen is a catastrophe. |
| 0:15.2 | The tanks on students, the damage, and then the pursuit of anyone who was in attendance takes two years |
| 0:22.5 | of closing the country down, brutalizing. We don't have a good history. But in 1992, the country |
| 0:30.2 | starts to open up again to capital. It needs capital. It needs money invested. It needs to organize itself to attract investment. |
| 0:41.4 | And this is the period of creating the red capitalist, which I know Dan invariably were |
| 0:47.2 | the sons and daughters of the leading political figures, all of them. Dung has a daughter |
| 0:53.0 | whom you describe as Mousie, Deng, Dung has a daughter whom you describe as mousy, Deng, |
| 0:56.0 | Deng Nan, who becomes part of the free economy and other, the premier, have children or |
| 1:05.1 | friends of children. The one I love best is a Drexel University graduate name Zhang Ming Hong, who is called Mr. 10-percenter. |
| 1:15.9 | What was the 10% about? |
| 1:17.9 | Well, that's because in Shanghai, where he lived then, a lot of companies felt that they needed to give him 10% of the equity in order to smooth their way to getting |
| 1:28.5 | licenses and getting capital. He was the son, of course, of Jiang Zemin, who was the head of |
| 1:35.1 | China. I hate to use the word president, which Chinese people never use, but he was the head of |
| 1:40.2 | China after Tiananmen. And so his son was Mr. 10%. |
| 1:44.9 | And this is red capitalism. |
| 1:46.8 | This isn't quite our idea of capitalism, |
| 1:48.8 | but it is red capitalism. |
| 1:50.7 | The Premier's son, his name is Levin Zhu, |
| 1:54.5 | he runs something that, what is that, |
| 1:57.0 | a sovereign fund, a CICC, it's an investment fund? |
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