S8 Ep419: Veronique de Rugy of the Mercatus Center argues tariffs act as taxes on Americans, criticizing the administration's erratic implementation for creating damaging business uncertainty that undermines economic planning.
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 5 February 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel, a conversation with Veronique de Rie of the Mercado Center about growth in the Trump administration, |
| 0:07.9 | growth despite the tariffs, which I am taught to regard as a tax on the American people, |
| 0:16.0 | a tax that takes the money out of our hands where it's productive and puts it in the hands of the government, |
| 0:22.1 | which is enough to say not productive. Here's Veronique to describe not only the tariffs, |
| 0:30.5 | but the will of the whisp nature of the tariff application. How much of the tariffs mentioned |
| 0:36.5 | Liberation Day are still in place? |
| 0:38.6 | Guess. Here's Veronique to tell you. More of this later. |
| 0:42.8 | Yeah, tariffs are regulation. In fact, when the administration, it crows about how much |
| 0:49.5 | revenue they're raising from the tariffs, we have to understand we Americans are paying that tax. |
| 0:55.5 | We are paying it. |
| 0:56.8 | There's just no question about it. |
| 0:58.8 | In fact, there's just a study that came out where, like, we are shouldering 94% of the tax. |
| 1:05.7 | And, but, I mean, it is, it, the, it's, tax is one thing. |
| 1:12.5 | But again, the uncertainty of the implementation. |
| 1:15.7 | It would be one thing if the president said from now on, 10% on everything. |
| 1:20.6 | It wouldn't be ideal, but at least, you know, companies would adjust and they would, you know, they would work around it and they |
| 1:28.9 | would figure things out. But it's just the erraticness and like the changing constantly, |
| 1:35.4 | the, you know, Liberation Day. Now, half of the, half of, half of, only half of the tariffs from |
| 1:41.1 | Liberation Day are still in place. |
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