This is John Batchel, a conversation with Josh Beerenbaum of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy about what must happen for Venezuela to move on from the crisis and move away from the corruption and drug running for many years. What must happen in order to attract the diaspora back? Here's Josh to explain. More of this tonight.

Well, I think that we need to know what we've got right now and make sure that we have an agreement

with those in power. But the status quo is really a temporary solution that's got to be if we

want a stable democracy there. What's most important is that we build the conditions that

makes the diaspora of Venezuela, the 8 million people that left return. Because in order to have

any level of economic development here, you're going to need the professional class, the middle

class, the vibrant class that was building Venezuela before Chavez and Maduro took over, return.

And that's the long-term plan.

To do that, you need to have a plan after the status quo.

And that means addressing the narco challenge, addressing democracy, and addressing corruption.