S8 Ep419: Andrea Stricker argues the Non-Proliferation Treaty remains historically effective in limiting nuclear states, despite current stresses and the outlier of North Korea which escaped the regime's constraints.
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🗓️ 5 February 2026
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Andrea Stricker argues the Non-Proliferation Treaty remains historically effective in limiting nuclear states, despite current stresses and the outlier of North Korea which escaped the regime's constraints.
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Matzler, a conversation with Kallagandria Stricker, |
| 0:04.3 | the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, working on non-proliferation, |
| 0:08.7 | noting that the non-proliferation treaty at the UN is coming up for reconsideration in the springtime. |
| 0:15.5 | Does it work? Does it need strengthening? Is it pointless? |
| 0:20.7 | Did it fail in Iran? Did it fail in North Korea? |
| 0:25.0 | It is the leverage that the United States is using to challenge the Iranian regime. |
| 0:31.6 | But here's Andrea to explain what is and what is not useful of the NPT. More of this tonight. |
| 0:40.9 | I think the NPT is under stress, but for all intents and purposes, it has held out pretty |
| 0:47.1 | well since it was negotiated in 1968. You know, we only have nine nuclear weapons states. There was one South Africa that |
| 0:56.4 | developed nuclear weapons and gave them up. One could say on the positive side that this number |
| 1:03.4 | could be a lot higher of countries that have left the treaty and developed nuclear weapons. So |
| 1:08.7 | far, it's really only North Korea that has. And then we have |
| 1:11.8 | India, Pakistan, and Israel that are outside the treaty. |
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