I'm John Batchler. My friend and colleague Gordon Chang Chang, at Gordon G. Chang, is here with me,

and we're very pleased to welcome Steve and Yates of the Heritage Foundation to comment on

security in Europe, security in America, security in the 21st century, because of the adversaries,

that would be the no-limits Partnership between Moscow and Beijing.

Steve, a very good day to you. I read a headline that the Financial Times in London wanted

us to see. It doesn't hesitate. It's wide news, not just the USA. Now, these are the Oxbridge

labor boys. They're very smart, and they have wit about their smartness. They grin when they put a

headline like this up saying, take that, Washington. The headline, Russian spy spacecraft have

intercepted Europe's key satellites. Officials believe subhead. Unencrypted European communications

are being targeted by Moscow.

Steve, you've been in and out of several administrations. You've traveled the world.

You've had conversations with diplomats from Asia and Europe, especially from Europe.

Is it your experience that the Europeans regard the American keenness on securing

our borders, securing our future, defending our freedom, that they regard that as trite?

Do they regard that as unnecessary? Do we understand their version of the world where they can

send their prime ministers, Albanese of Australia,

Carney of Canada, Starmer of the UK, send them to Beijing with the hat out, not thinking that

Beijing knew you were coming and knows the size of your shoes because you've sent unencrypted

messages on a communication satellite that you would not have at all if it

weren't for the genius of the United States. Do they talk like that? What are they thinking, Steve?

Good day to you. Well, good day, John. Well, for far too long, a lot of European interlocutors

were dealing in a post-globalist or in a globalist dream, a post-Cold War, peace dividend,

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