S8 Ep413: Guest: Gregory Copley. Copley discusses the Epstein scandal involving Lord Mandelson and Prince Andrew, suggesting King Charles is distancing the monarchy from these revelations to protect the institution.
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🗓️ 3 February 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my colleague and friend Gregory Copley of Defense and Foreign Affairs, |
| 0:21.3 | the author of the new book, Noble State, recommending the constitutional monarchy that describes |
| 0:28.2 | the United Kingdom since the, well, let's say the 18th century. However, there are disruptions |
| 0:35.9 | in the serenity of constitutional monarchy. |
| 0:39.3 | It can be you have a prime minister who is not living up to his remarks. |
| 0:44.6 | It can be war. |
| 0:46.6 | And in this instance, it's very difficult to characterize it other than the fact |
| 0:50.6 | that a member of the royal family, a critical member, the brother, the younger |
| 0:54.8 | brother of the king, Andrew, is a bad actor. |
| 1:02.2 | There's no general way to describe it other than the simple fact. |
| 1:07.6 | His conduct, as revealed by the serial revelations in what are called the Epstein papers, |
| 1:16.3 | is that not of a prince of the land or a man who was born to privilege, |
| 1:21.8 | but that of, I don't want to characterize it with the wrong metaphor, bad actor. |
| 1:27.8 | Gregory, we've not talked about this because so much of the royal family is scandal news in Britain. |
| 1:35.3 | I understand how the press works. |
| 1:37.8 | But this Epstein matter now involves matters of state. |
| 1:41.9 | There is the allegation that a man named Mandelson who was appointed to be |
| 1:47.0 | the ambassador from the United Kingdom to the United States by Kier Starrmer most recently. |
| 1:53.0 | He is involved in conduct that's completely unacceptable with regard to Epstein and his exploitation of young people. |
| 2:04.7 | And he's now faced with answering questions by the U.S. Congress and possible prosecution |
| 2:11.9 | because of revelation that he passed a confidential paper on to Epstein in some fashion during his time in government. |
| 2:20.4 | I believe he's a member of Parliament or member of the House of Lords. |
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