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S8 Ep413: Guest: Gregory Copley. Copley analyzes new talks involving Turkey and the UAE, noting U.S. reluctance to support Iranian civil society leaves the clerical regime breathing room despite weakness.

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🗓️ 3 February 2026

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Guest: Gregory Copley. Copley analyzes new talks involving Turkey and the UAE, noting U.S. reluctance to support Iranian civil society leaves the clerical regime breathing room despite weakness.
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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor. I welcome my colleague and mentor Gregory Copley, Defense and Foreign Affairs.

0:22.5

We turn our attention to the many talking tables that are in train right now. The talking table of

0:29.2

Hamas, for example, in either Cairo or Qatar, to representatives of the United States and the IDF,

0:36.7

the state of Israel, the talking table in

0:40.3

either Keef or Brussels or Moscow or Washington, about the conflict between Russia and Ukraine

0:46.8

or Russia and NATO, as Moscow says. The talking table in Lebanon, where Tom Barrack representing the U.S. government is talking to the Lebanese armed forces,

0:57.9

the Lebanese government about disarming or defanging Hezbollah, unknown quantities.

1:04.4

The talking table in and around Damascus, where representatives of the United States are said to vouchsafe, the government of Al-Shaara, a former Al-Qaeda boss,

1:15.1

who is ordering his troops to attack Kurds. There's now a ceasefire. There have been two previous

1:21.9

ceasefires that are violated. There's no reason to believe this third ceasefire won't, that talking

1:25.7

table. And now we go to the newest talking table, to my knowledge, the talking table implicit in this headline from

1:33.2

Reuters. UAE urges U.S. and Iran to strike nuclear deal ahead of talks. Subhead. The UAE,

1:41.2

a highly influential Gulf Arab power and close U.S. allies, said a long-term solution

1:46.0

was needed. Gregory, a very good evening to you. The Ayatollah, the senior figure in the Islamic

1:54.4

Republic of Iran, is never, to my knowledge, acknowledged by anyone, has been, is not now, will not be in future

2:04.4

as a man who make concessions. He's an absolutist. He's an idiologue. He's a martyr figure,

2:10.4

always threatening to destroy himself in his nation unless he bears witness to your

2:17.1

offer of peace. That's the Ayatollah. What talk, Gregory,

2:22.1

where is this going? Because behind the Ayatollah, as you have taught me, as we know, is the skill

2:28.3

of the bazaar. Keep them talking until they give you money. Good evening to you.

2:32.9

Good evening, John. Well, you characterized that quite well, I thought. The interesting thing is that while

2:38.4

al-Ai-Kamanei, the Ayatollah and Supreme Leader, is able to continue with his bombast,

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