I'm John Baster. This is Hotel Mars Episode N with Dr. Livingston, the space show himself, Dr. Space.

We take this opportunity to say what a treat it is to talk to a planetary geologist like Paul Callas.

But that's part of the magic of doing this show, because we have ranges that are unlimited.

Last week, we had an opportunity to talk to a young cosmologist who was participating in

investigation of little red dots that have suddenly been discovered by James Webb Space

Telescope near the beginning of, well, the word beginning is

itself limiting.

Near the beginning, we'll leave it there, that no one had imagined we're there before,

and now that they've got them, many finger-pointing, it's this, it's that.

Great fun to talk about the edge of science.

Today we talked about the understanding of how planets form around a star, around a star, only 25 light years away.

David's program, the space show, and his contribution to Hotel Mars, provides the practical of space engineering and concentrated on the idea of mankind in space. Is that fair, David, that it's man and women in space that compels

many of your guests? That's probably still our primary focus after 25 years, but we also cover the science.

I'm thinking of inviting Paul on to talk about planetary formation and to go sort of deep

into that kind of astronomy.

But we do still focus on commercial space development,

the desire to see space settlement, rocket launches. And we brought Doug on a few days ago

to talk about like the launch industry. Doug Messier is the substack director formerly of

Parabellic Arc, a very careful reporter of rocketry.

Go ahead, David.

But also we bring on Dr. Ben-Iroya, who talks about building the structures on the moon and Mars that humans are going to live in.

And another great person who needs to return to Hotel Mars is Melody,

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