S8 Ep384: Charles Burton and Gordon Chang comment on Prime Minister Mark Carney and Canada's future with the United States and PRC, assessing Ottawa's delicate balancing act between its powerful neighbors.
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🗓️ 29 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchew with Gordon Chang and Charles Burton, and we're looking at Canada's commitment |
| 0:21.5 | in the 21st century to defending the Arctic passages that are said to be opening from the |
| 0:28.5 | threat of adversaries. At Davos, Mr. Carney, a central banker of great experience, made a |
| 0:36.9 | speech that much pleased all ears. |
| 0:39.7 | And I read from a column by, in the Financial Times this morning, by the esteemed columnist, |
| 0:47.0 | Martin Wolf, in praise of Mr. Carney. |
| 0:49.5 | This is a sort of ringing praise that points to a future debate. |
| 0:54.6 | Mr. Wolf writes, Carney insisted not only that the old order is not coming back, |
| 0:59.4 | but that we, quote, shouldn't mourn it. |
| 1:02.1 | Nostalgia is not a strategy. |
| 1:04.7 | That old order would be the U.S. first. |
| 1:07.6 | The following sentence, writes Mr. Wolf, which is, quote, we believe that from the fracture we can build something better, stronger, more just, end quote, is a hope, but also not a strategy. |
| 1:20.7 | A sober analyst must ask whether and how far it might become one. |
| 1:25.6 | Wow. |
| 1:26.9 | Come on, Charles. This was a rock-solid speech, which was a dream for the Europeans. |
| 1:33.1 | How is it understood in Ottawa and across Canada? I mean, it has increased Mr. Carney's |
| 1:39.7 | considerably. It's sort of, you know, Canada's back as a leader of middle powers. But, you know, |
| 1:47.9 | he also made a statement about the USMCA where Mr. Carney said, and I quote, the world has |
| 1:54.0 | changed, Washington has changed. Almost nothing is normal in the United States. That's the truth. |
| 2:00.4 | And so it does seem to be responding to the Europeans fear of saying anything that will lead |
| 2:07.7 | to further coercive retaliation by the United States, you know, the imposition of tariffs, |
| 2:13.3 | such as the additional 10% if European nations sent troops to defend Greenland or whatever. |
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