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S8 Ep381: Mary Kissel criticizes Prime Minister Keir Starmer's foolish decision to pursue a new embassy in the People's Republic of China, questioning the strategic wisdom of such diplomatic investment amid rising tensions.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Mary Kissel criticizes Prime Minister Keir Starmer's foolish decision to pursue a new embassy in the People's Republic of China, questioning the strategic wisdom of such diplomatic investment amid rising tensions.
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchler. I welcome my long-time good colleague, Mary Kessel.

0:20.2

She is the executive vice president and Stevens, Incorporated.

0:23.2

That's the private world.

0:25.4

Herefore, she was a senior advisor to the Secretary of State.

0:28.9

That's the public world.

0:30.4

And before that, she was both public and private working the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal in Asia and in America.

0:37.5

I call upon all those skills right now because of the unknowns of Iran.

0:43.5

We're told, and this information is what you get when you ask, and you don't have secret

0:49.2

sources or you don't pretend, we're told there's an air fleet assembled in and around the Iranian airspace. We're

0:57.4

told there's a naval fleet assembled in and around the seas of the Middle East. We're told

1:03.6

that the president and the supreme leader in Iran have been in contact through lieutenants.

1:10.4

It may turn on to the nuclear weapons program

1:13.0

that was believed damage to was severely retarded last summer. It may turn on some other information

1:21.3

about Iran threaten making threats towards the neighborhood. Certainly they're responsible for

1:26.1

the attacks on Israel and the depredations of tens of thousands. Certainly they're responsible for the attacks on Israel and the

1:27.5

depredations of tens of thousands. They're also responsible for the mass murder of their own citizens

1:33.6

these last weeks by opening fire with automatic weapons on clearly children and going door to door

1:41.7

in Tehran to search for people who were wounded by their bullets and killing them.

1:47.6

That's going on now, I'm told.

1:50.0

The executions are going on now, I'm told.

1:52.9

Therefore, what is to be done?

1:55.1

Mary, you have the most recent experience of how to deal with Iran in the first term for Mr. Trump, you work for Mr. Pompeo,

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