S8 Ep371: John Batchelor introduces Patrick K. O'Donnell and his book The Unvanquished, focusing on the "Jesse Scouts" and their leader, Captain John Charles Carpenter. Named after Jesse Frémont, these Union scouts utilized disguises and "trade craft" to infiltrate
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 26 January 2026
⏱️ 11 minutes
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1861
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World with John Batchelor. Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:12.1 | It is the summer of 1862, Captain John Charles Carpenter, a man who is known to have many faces and guises. |
| 0:22.6 | He is going to introduce us to a concept that seems very 21st century, and yet this is the |
| 0:30.5 | Civil War at the opening, and it begins the story of the unvanquished, the untold story of Lincoln's special forces, |
| 0:40.3 | the manhunt for Mosby's Rangers, and the shadow war that forged America's special operations. |
| 0:47.4 | I welcome the author, Patrick K. O'Donnell, my good friend, to introduce us to Captain Carpenter, who is not trustworthy. |
| 0:57.5 | And yet that is the nature of this business. |
| 1:00.5 | These are very brave men who are also at the same time capable of betrayal. |
| 1:06.3 | That makes the challenge of serving with them and using them in combat to be especially dangerous |
| 1:13.6 | and why so many of the commanding voices of the Civil War didn't trust it. |
| 1:20.6 | Patrick, congratulations and good evening to you. |
| 1:24.6 | Introduces to Captain Charles Carpenter and what is Jesse Scouts? Good evening. |
| 1:30.8 | Good evening, John. This is, the Jesse Scouts were previously an untold story until the |
| 1:37.8 | unvanquished. And their origins begin in 1861 in the battleground of Missouri, where it was brother against brother, |
| 1:46.6 | neighbor against neighbor. It was a true insurgency in the Civil War. And John C. Fremont, |
| 1:52.9 | the first Republican candidate for president in 1856, is in command of a army group at this point. |
| 2:01.5 | And he introduces scouting or scouts to his group. |
| 2:06.5 | He was known as the Pathfinder or the explorer prior to the Civil War. |
| 2:10.7 | He explores California. |
| 2:13.4 | He employs scouts there, men of the West, trappers, hunters, expert men with guns, |
| 2:21.3 | and he does it again under his command, and he brings together a group of scouts that had been |
| 2:27.8 | trailblazers in the West. |
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