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S8 Ep369: Headline: Managing Snakes and Kangaroos During Extreme Heat Guest: Jeremy Zakis Extreme heat drives snakes into homes seeking cool air, hiding in shoes and behind furniture. Official advice for spotting dangerous snakes is to stay calm, "grab a beer," and

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 25 January 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Headline: Managing Snakes and Kangaroos During Extreme Heat Guest: Jeremy Zakis
Extreme heat drives snakes into homes seeking cool air, hiding in shoes and behind furniture. Official advice for spotting dangerous snakes is to stay calm, "grab a beer," and call a professional catcher. Meanwhile, kangaroos conserve energy by resting under trees on golf courses, observing humans without reacting

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0:00.0

This is John Batchel, the Friends of Mr. Debating Society in New England, where it's very cold.

0:05.8

And my colleague and correspondent and very good friend, Jeremy Zackis, is in New South Wales, where it's very hot.

0:12.1

However, it's summertime.

0:14.6

And in summer, you have a checklist.

0:17.7

And Jeremy tells me right now the checklist includes no barbecues at the beach, no fireworks because of the threat of forest fire.

0:26.6

And one more thing. Check everything twice. Because the snakes are coming, the snakes are coming, the snakes are coming. Jeremy, I'm getting used to anticipation. The snakes

0:38.3

prefer not too cold, not too hot, just right. And one of the ways they do, they find that they

0:46.0

adjust is they don't set a temperature in their bodies. They go looking for places to sleep.

0:52.1

Now, is it too hot for the snakes to be outside? Do they come inside? Where do they go

0:56.9

when it's as hot? Honestly, John, it is absolutely too hot for snakes like humans alike, I should

1:02.8

say, as well. But the ironic thing is that the way the temperature works here is that in the

1:07.5

mornings, it's relatively cool. So it's kind of in the optimal temperature of where the snakes like to move around.

1:12.9

But as the day gets warmer, so around about 11 o'clock in the morning, that's when it crosses the peak period where the snakes start to find it getting a little bit too hot.

1:21.3

And that is when it becomes dangerous because, as you mentioned, the snakes need to regulate their temperatures.

1:26.2

And the way they do that is they find hiding spaces to either sleep or just protect themselves

1:31.2

from the direct sunlight and the direct heat.

1:33.5

And nine times out of ten, a lot of those spaces, guess what, are around the home.

1:37.7

So what the snakes do is they actually use all their sensors to identify where cool air

1:43.4

is coming from or where shade could be found.

1:45.6

So what snakes find is that there is these cool streams going through the warm air basically

1:51.0

outside and they'll make a beeline to it.

1:53.8

If it's a household where there's some air conditioning leaking out of the door, guess what?

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