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S8 Ep368: FILE 8. INDUSTRIAL ESPIONAGE AND D-DAY DELAYS. GUEST AUTHOR SEAN MCMEEKIN. The author details how the Soviets utilized Lend-Lease to plunder American intellectual property and entire factories, often with Harry Hopkins’s facilitation,. McMeekin notes th

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 25 January 2026

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FILE 8. INDUSTRIAL ESPIONAGE AND D-DAY DELAYS. GUEST AUTHOR SEAN MCMEEKIN. The author details how the Soviets utilized Lend-Lease to plunder American intellectual property and entire factories, often with Harry Hopkins’s facilitation,. McMeekin notes that Stalin delayed Operation Bagration until weeks after D-Day to let the Allies absorb German strength, while Hopkins consistently overruled officials like Averell Harriman who tried to condition this aid,.
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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchel. My conversation with Sean McMeakin, professor of Bard College,

0:10.0

author of the new book, Stalin's War. This is a tour of the familiar territory in 1939 to 1948.

0:18.5

From the point of view of Moscow, there are, however, puzzles. One of the puzzles we've

0:24.9

bypassed, but I want to come back because it's not all on FDR telling himself this will work out.

0:31.6

It's also Winston Churchill. Sean, who are the Chetniks? Who is Mikhailovich? What does Churchill make of the presentation he's

0:41.2

given by the BBC and other Czechist agents in London that he should side with the wrong people in

0:47.6

Yugoslavia? Well, I do think Churchill at times during the war would put up at least a little

0:53.5

bit more fight than Roosevelt did on some questions and strategy, but not in Yugoslavia.

0:57.8

I mean, this is definitely a good one to single out where I think Churchill really was hoodwinked.

1:03.4

Now, to be fair to Churchill, there was some evidence and some of it was uncovered by British intelligence, the so-called Enigma Decrypts,

1:11.0

that Mikhailovich, who was this officer in the former Yugoslav army,

1:15.1

who was the legity of the Yugoslav government in exile in London,

1:20.5

who led to Chechnik's this kind of group of rebels who took to the hills

1:25.0

and tried to resist the Nazis after the Germans invaded Yugoslavia in April 1941.

1:31.0

Now, Mikhailovich, like his kind of counterpart on the left, Braz or Tito, who was, of course, answering to Stalin,

1:39.2

at times during the war, would have to negotiate various kind of deals with either the Italian occupying

1:44.3

authorities or even once or twice with Serbs or indirectly with the Germans. There were

1:49.9

sometimes prisoner exchanges, weapons, and you could very easily weaponize this information politically

1:54.7

in order to smear someone as a collaborator. And that becomes the official communist line

1:59.3

on Kailovich, is that he's a collaborator.

2:02.0

It's a grotesque slander, of course. I mean, his Chetniks resisted the Germans long before

2:07.0

the partisans of Tito did because they had to have Soviet permission until the Germans invaded

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