This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchelor. John McMeekin is the author of the new book Stalin's War.

He's a professor at Bard College.

Stalin has needleed, hectared, used the rhetoric of Second Front for years.

Well, here it comes.

1944. We know it is D-Day. However, there are many details

inside this before D-Day actually happens. It's important to explore them all. And it has to do with

the lend lease. First protocol, second protocol, third protocol. It's not just the dollar figure, which is enormous.

It's the ability of the Soviets to plunder the United States, whole Ford factories,

suitcases of what we call intellectual property.

At that time, they would have called them blueprints.

Being guarded by NKVD men with submachine guns

as they're transferred unopened boxes to the Soviet Union.

Sean, I had the image, while I'm reading your very careful and shocking explication,

of not just 70,000 tons of sugar in the first protocol, but those boxes

of plans in the third protocol extended. I had this image that all of this equipment, all of these

blueprints, all of the technology, all of the pieces of the Ford plant, went to some warehouse

in the Soviet Union and was never touched.

Just a winter outside, Stalin was doing it because this is the highwayman from the Tiflis massacre.

Grab as much as you can and think about it afterwards.

So, did Hopkins know this was happening?

Did FDR know this was happening? Did Stentinius,

a friend of Hopkins, who will later become the Secretary of State for Truman, for heaven's

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