I'm John Datsu with Victor Davis Hansen of the Hoover Institution.

The professor is a classicist writing most recently, The Dying Citizen, How Progressive

Elites, Tribalism and Globalization are destroying the idea of America.

It is obvious that the Roman Empire was the first iteration of globalization. We are

several more advanced from that, but it's surprising how the pattern repeats itself. Borders.

Victor, let's do some history here. In 1965, the Hart Seller Act, rethinking immigration into America, migration into America, people who came to America

for either to send remittances home or to resettle without going through the ordinary

process of applying for U.S. citizenship. You're right that that was, that it is now regarded,

not you, you report, that it is now regarded one of the

most if not the most thoughtless of the great society how so how did it change things

it destroyed the whole idea of meritocracy so it basically said whether you have a bachelor's degree

or a definable skill or some capital or some fluency

with English, it doesn't matter anymore. We're going to privilege family relationships and to be

frank proximity to the border. And it was done in an unholy alliance from the Ted Kennedy wing of the Democratic Party

and the corporate wing of the Republican Party.

And they basically said, corporate, corporation said, we need cheap labor, not just for agriculture,

which now is only 20% of illegal labor, but meatpacking, hospitality, restaurants, hotels, etc.

And we're willing to open the borders to get cheap labor.

And then the left said, we want new constituents because our agenda basically is no longer appealing to 51% of the people.

So we brought in, since that act, about of the people. So we brought in since that act about 50 million people,

and we have now a continual pull, so they go in and out, people become legal residents

or then citizens. But we have about 50 million people who are not born in the United States.

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