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S8 Ep357: PREVIEW FOR LATER TODAY: SCOTUS AND TRUMP'S TARIFF AUTHORITY Guest: Richard EpsteinEpstein analyzes Supreme Court implications for Trump's tariff policies, examining both the emergency powers claims justifying trade barriers and threats against European a

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🗓️ 23 January 2026

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PREVIEW FOR LATER TODAY: SCOTUS AND TRUMP'S TARIFF AUTHORITY Guest: Richard EpsteinEpstein analyzes Supreme Court implications for Trump's tariff policies, examining both the emergency powers claims justifying trade barriers and threats against European allies who resist Greenland demands. Discussion covers constitutional limits on executive authority, legal challenges to protectionist measures, and whether courts will constrain presidential overreach on trade.
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0:00.0

This is John Baxter. Professor Richard Epstein commenting on the Supreme Court and the decision to hear the case for the president to issue tariffs on the basis of a trade imbalance, claiming it's an emergency that gives him the authority to do it, whether Congress likes it, whether the courts like it, whether anybody likes it. Emergency powers. That case is argued before the Supreme Court pending a decision.

0:25.0

There is another matter, however, where the president issued or threatened to issue tariffs

0:29.8

on the basis of a policy dispute over Greenland.

0:34.0

Richard points out the blunder by the Supreme Court,

0:41.8

which was to take the original case and wander into this, may ask.

0:52.6

The president is abusing the language of the original law, 1977, says Richard, but the court is now weighted into it and has got to decide.

0:55.5

Will it also take the case about Greenland and issuing tariffs on the basis, you disagree with me, therefore 10 percent? Richard thinks the

1:00.7

court has made difficulties for itself to understate the matter. Here's Richard to explain. More

1:06.8

of this tonight. Well, more challenging as Greenland. Yes, well, I said the thing I hope that the Supreme Court would do is to say if we're trying

1:15.2

to figure out what is obviously within the power and what's not within the power,

1:18.8

one of the things that is not within the power of the president is to use the tariff system

1:23.8

for purely political reasons so that even if you were to decide the case that he could

1:29.3

act under IEPA for dealing with economic matters, he could not do so here. Otherwise, this statute

1:34.8

becomes an absolute tool to blunder and abuse everybody else on the face of the globe. And I think

1:40.5

the argument is so manifestly correct that it would be nice for the Supreme Court to state it, because at that point, you don't have to go through the current charade

1:48.6

of bringing a lawsuit, having it decided by lower cause, having the Supreme Court say,

1:53.9

I'm going to let them impose these tariffs until we decided, at which point the entire

1:58.0

battle is lost.

1:59.3

The biggest wonder the Supreme Court has already made in this case

2:02.7

was that it let stand in order from below

2:05.3

that Trump could basically keep doing tariffs

2:08.4

until the case was decided by the Supreme Court.

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