S8 Ep355: SEGMENT 8: VENEZUELA'S UNFINISHED TRANSITION Guest: Mary Anastasia O'Grady (Wall Street Journal) O'Grady reports Venezuela's democratic transition stalled with the same regime intact. Interior Minister Diosdado Cabello and Delcy Rodriguez control state se
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchford. I welcome my colleague Mary Anastacio Grady of the editorial page of the Wall Street |
| 0:21.5 | Journal writing in the Americas column. Venezuela, the unfinished business. The intention of the |
| 0:27.2 | Secretary of State Mr. Rubio is phase one underway. Phase two is establish the economy as |
| 0:33.8 | stable. Phase three is transition to democracy. All well and good, but we must deal with the |
| 0:40.6 | personnel left in place after Maduro's hasty exit. Mary, a very good evening to you. As I understand |
| 0:47.3 | that there are four factions to pay attention to at the head of these narco-terrorist gangs. |
| 0:54.1 | One is the Rodriguez's. |
| 0:57.1 | This is Dulce and Jorge Rodriguez. |
| 0:59.7 | She is the now elevated president, former vice president. |
| 1:03.0 | He is the head of the National Assembly. |
| 1:05.5 | Two is Padrina Lopez, the highest-ranking military man, head of the army. |
| 1:11.9 | Three is the man named Deistado Cabello. |
| 1:15.8 | He's the minister of interior meeting the police, the secret police, the guys with the guns. |
| 1:20.9 | And four is the Maduro gang, now without a head, but still they want their payday. |
| 1:26.5 | All right. |
| 1:27.4 | Within one of those gangs and the one with the guns in the city, |
| 1:32.1 | that's the police, the secret police, the guys that come in the night, the torture chambers. |
| 1:37.0 | Diasdato Cabello is a man named Gonzales Lopez. |
| 1:40.5 | Who is he and why are we watching them closely? |
| 1:42.9 | Good evening to you. |
| 1:45.2 | Good evening, John. |
| 1:56.1 | Well, Gonzalez Lopez is a military guy. He was recently elevated by Delci Rodriguez to the post of head of the presidential honor guard. |
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