S8 Ep354: SEGMENT 1: GREENLAND, NATO, AND TRUMP'S REVERSALS Guest: Anatol Lieven, Co-Host: Jim McTague Lieven examines Trump's shifting positions on Greenland and NATO, unsettling European allies who question American reliability. Discussion covers the proposed Boa
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🗓️ 23 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchler. My colleague and friend Jim McTagg of Barron's Magazine, former Washington editor, |
| 0:22.3 | now a retired novelist in Lancaster County, joins me, and we're headed to comments about |
| 0:27.1 | the last days and Europe, with Anatole Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, |
| 0:34.7 | the head of the Eurasia Project, looking at the events in Davos to begin |
| 0:39.3 | with in the last 24 hours, especially the speech by the President of the United States, |
| 0:45.2 | addressing matters of great concern for our NATO allies and certainly for the people of Greenland, |
| 0:52.1 | and then also addressing what is called the Board of |
| 0:55.9 | Peace, which is a strange, hybrid organization that seems to be defined day to day by |
| 1:02.3 | remarks by the president and or his counselors, but it has no written program that I'm |
| 1:07.5 | familiar with. |
| 1:08.6 | Anatole, a very good day to you. |
| 1:10.3 | These are good days for policy |
| 1:12.4 | op-eds such as you write, so congratulations. This is Anatol weather. But the Anatoe weather |
| 1:18.9 | includes the necessity to understand what to make of the president's reversal within 24 hours |
| 1:25.8 | about his remarks on Greenland. One meeting with Mark Rudy and the |
| 1:30.7 | punishing tariffs that were announced for February 1st are called off. And yet, well, I'll stop |
| 1:36.6 | there because there's no conclusion. There's just this bounce that goes on and on that affects |
| 1:41.7 | worldwide markets. How do you regard the president's speech yesterday? |
| 1:46.2 | Was it expected by Mr. Rudy? Was NATO expecting him to reverse himself? There was a emergency |
| 1:53.4 | summit called for today, which may or may not go forward. Your look to be very alarmed. |
| 2:00.0 | Good day to you, Anatole. |
| 2:02.3 | Hello, John. Yeah, I mean, the problem about being an analyst of Trump is that everything |
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