S8 Ep353: VIEW FOR LATER TODAY: VENEZUELA'S FAILED DEMOCRATIC TRANSITION Guest: Mary Anastasia O'Grady O'Grady reports the US hope for Venezuelan democracy is failing because Delcy Rodriguez built no institutions respecting President-elect Edmundo Gonzalez. The Int
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🗓️ 22 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel. Mary Anastacio Grady, the America's columnist for the Wall Street Journal |
| 0:05.3 | editorial page identifies a man named Dios Dioz, the head of the Ministry of Interior in Venezuela, |
| 0:13.3 | the guys with guns, the secret policemen, the bully boys, the enforcers, the ones who keep a torture |
| 0:18.9 | chamber and a prison where there are upwards of 800 people who have not been released, despite the change of weather, we're told in Caracas. |
| 0:28.4 | Mary outlines what's supposed to be happening. |
| 0:31.5 | Phase one was get rid of Maduro. |
| 0:34.0 | Phase two, economic stability. |
| 0:36.1 | Phase three, moved to democracy. But the guy with |
| 0:39.5 | the gun, Cabello, and the person who put him there and endorses him and keeps him in power, |
| 0:48.5 | the now president of the country, Dulce Rodriguez. Here's Mary. More of this tonight. |
| 0:54.9 | Well, so far, there is no transition. |
| 0:57.0 | I mean, what the administration is hoping for is that Delcy Rodriguez comes in, works |
| 1:03.8 | with the U.S., creates a set of institutions that are willing to respect democracy, the president-elect Edmundo |
| 1:13.9 | Gonzalez, and move the country back towards an ally of the U.S. |
| 1:21.5 | But so far, that's not happening. |
| 1:23.8 | She's elevated Gonzalez-Lopez. |
| 1:26.9 | She's allowing Cabello to accumulate more weapons and accumulate more power. |
| 1:34.2 | And he, you know, is a problem for the U.S. agenda. |
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