S8 Ep353: PREVIEW FOR LATER TODAY: EUROPEAN DOUBTS ON US RELIABILITY Guest: Anatol Lieven Lieven explains how Trump's unpredictability on Greenland and NATO reinforces European perceptions of America as an unreliable backstop for Ukraine. France and Britain are rec
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🗓️ 22 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchelor. The conversation between the President of the United States and the General Secretary of NATO looks to have solved Greenland or has it. |
| 0:11.0 | Because Anatold, Levin, my colleague here, identifies Europe's sudden awareness that the U.S. is not trustworthy, reliable, certain, and that gives great pause to a guaranteed |
| 0:26.3 | force into Ukraine. What if the U.S. didn't show up would be the question. |
| 0:32.4 | Here's Anatole to explain after Davos. |
| 0:35.3 | Well, both, I think, and the fact that they're both in trouble is critical because, you |
| 0:42.2 | know, although Trump apparently has backed down, I mean, what all this has really done is |
| 0:48.4 | reinforced for European governments and publics, the image of Trump's unreliability and unpredictability. |
| 0:59.0 | Now, that could have a good effect because from what I'm told, people are really beginning to, in France and Britain, think twice about this idea of sending European troops to Ukraine, |
| 1:15.3 | both because the Russians have made clear that that is one of the two key issues that is |
| 1:20.3 | blocking a peace settlement for them. But also because as Stama and others have said, |
| 1:32.8 | such troops will be completely dependent on what he has called a US backstop. |
| 1:39.5 | And obviously, under Trump, no US backstop can be regarded as truly reliable. |
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