S8 Ep350: SEGMENT 5: CANADA-CHINA TRADE RELATIONS Guest: Charles Burton Burton examines Canada's complex trade relationship with China amid growing geopolitical tensions. Discussion covers economic dependencies, security concerns over Chinese investment, and how Ot
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 12 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my friend and colleague Gordon Chang, Davos, Switzerland, the gathering of the |
| 0:22.5 | Eagles and the media covering the Eagles. And in these last hours, a speech by the new |
| 0:29.0 | Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney, getting great applause, attention in the New York |
| 0:35.2 | Times, in the Financial Times in London, around the world. |
| 0:40.1 | And I welcome Charles Burton, our Carney whisper, actually our Canada whisper, the author of |
| 0:46.8 | the new and exciting Beaver and the Dragon, the story of China-Canada relations these many |
| 0:53.1 | years and where they're going right now is informed by Mark Carney's |
| 0:58.0 | speech. So I'll read the opening paragraphs in the New York Times. Prime Minister Mark Carney of |
| 1:03.1 | Canada delivered a stark speech in Davos, Switzerland, prompting global political and corporate |
| 1:08.8 | leaders in the audience to rise from their seats for a rare standing ovation. |
| 1:14.9 | Mr. Carney described the end of an era underpinned by United States hegemony, calling the current phase, quote, a rupture, end quote. |
| 1:24.1 | He never mentioned President Trump by name, but his reference was clear. |
| 1:29.7 | Your comment, Charles, is most welcome because what Mr. Carney is following through on right now |
| 1:36.3 | is language that is guaranteed to provoke a response. Good day to you, Charles. |
| 1:42.0 | Good day. Yes. I mean, Mr. Carney has not met Mr. Trump at Davos. |
| 1:47.2 | Mr. Carney, I think, has already left. |
| 1:50.8 | And this idea is really that the rules-based international order that Canada and other middle powers |
| 1:59.8 | have put so much stress on is now over. |
| 2:03.1 | And therefore, middle powers ought to establish different institutions and relationships |
| 2:07.9 | that exclude the United States to try and counter the subordination, which is inherent |
| 2:14.8 | on bilateral negotiations between smaller powers and the U.S. |
| 2:19.9 | So it's a it's a it's a it's a call to create new global institutions that will counter |
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